“OYF A MOYL IZ KEYN SHLOS NITO”.
It’s Yiddish. Means, “there’s no lock on a mouth”. Thank God, because after this post, I’m sure there will be people who would like to do exactly that with me!
First, I’d like to say this is not necessarily a treatise against homosexual people. We as believers are not called to be against any one person, nor label a person as bad. This isn’t the case. We love people, as is our mandate from the Scripture. (John 15:12-15):
12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friendsif you do what I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants,[a] for the servant[b] does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.
We do; however, stand against what I and some others have come to call HOMOFASCISM. Homofascism is simply the concerted efforts of some in media, business, government, and the judicial systems of America today that would give homosexuals legal standing to marry, and even some in the Church that have been so duped as to believe that somehow this is right by the annals of Scripture. This is the one thing that galls believers like myself. II Corinthians 10:4-6 is quite clear as to how to believe and act in such circumstances:
4for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. 5We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, 6and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete
So it is not PEOPLE that we have a problem with, but a speculation, an argument, an imagination that somehow sets itself against the Supremacy of Christ. For it is indeed written that He is called the Word of God (John 1:14). So, to somehow justify this, some in the homofascist sect have begun as they did in the ’70s attempting to make Biblical arguments to justify the homosexual lifestyle. I will address these one by one.
Myth #1- “Jesus never addressed homosexuality”
Answer- This is a propagandized statement. Jesus never used the exact words, “homosexuality is wrong”. Neither did He use the words, “Don’t smoke crack”, or, “don’t sleep with a gorilla”. First of all, Christ didn’t attempt to prove or disprove a negative. He simply defined what was good and proper in the eyes of God and labeled all others abberant. In Matthew 19:4-6 He stated the real form of marriage:
4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’[b] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Not a whole lot of room for conjecture here. Jesus makes plenty clear what His intentions for marriage are.
Second, Jesus couldn’t justify homosexuality and be the perfect sacrifice for humanity. Scripture is quite clear that He HAD to fulfill ALL the Law and the words of the Prophets in order to be the Maschiach. In Matthew 5:17-20 it says:
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Which leads me to myths #2 and #3.
Myth #2- First of all the Law is meant for the Jews, and it doesn’t apply today for the modern believer. Therefore, the Law is inapplicable to homosexuals as it is in all other facets.
Answer- WRONG! First of all, for all that written on the Law vs. Grace (and this is really a misnomer, the Bible is symbiotic), I would refer you to another post on this page called “Part 4: is the Law only for the Jews?”, and “I am a Messianic, part 2 Law or Grace? Let’s try BOTH!”. It DOES apply for the modern believer, obviously, as even Jesus stated in Matthew 5:18-20. Also, 2/3 of our modern Bible is the Old Testament. How can we somehow ignore that? We can’t merely pick and choose what does and does not. Of course, knowing the Bible helps, and a lot of people these days (including a lot of the preachers who espouse these things) don’t.
Myth #3- The New Testament is misinterpreted, and no other verses justify it. It states that people shouldn’t sleep with anyone against their orientation.
Answer- No, on several different levels. I Corinthians 6:9-11 states this on so many things:
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
What’s interesting here is Paul uses Scripture to collaborate Scripture here. He’s actually quoting here…FROM THE LAW! Look at Leviticus:
Fornicators- Leviticus 21:13-15-13 And he shall take a wife in her virginity. 14 A widow or a divorced woman or a defiled woman or a harlot—these he shall not marry; but he shall take a virgin of his own people as wife. 15 Nor shall he profane his posterity among his people, for I the Lord sanctify him.’”
Idolators- Leviticus 18:21 And you shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God: I am the Lord.
Adunterers: Leviticus 20:10 ‘The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death.
Homosexuals: Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
Sodomites (more on this): Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no ritual harlot[b] of the daughters of Israel, or a perverted[c] one of the sons of Israel.” Note the distinction between this and the description of the homosexual in Leviticus 18..
The List goes on and on. Pretty clear that Paul was quoting the Law as to who was violating the Law and who wasn’t inheriting the Kingdom of God.
Myth #4 The word ‘Sodomite’ in Scripture is translated to mean ‘temple prostitute’. Thus since we homosexuals are not ‘temple prostitutes’, the Law doesn’t apply to us.
Answer- Interesting. At the very least the best bunk argument I’ve seen thus far. For starters, it doesn’t justify the other arguments that people make, nor does it disprove any that people make against. Also, if that’s true, then how is it that Paul makes the distinction between the two, and so does Leviticus and Deuteronomy. And at the very least, the Bible when and wherever it uses this word, describes the behavior, i.e. ‘man lying with a man’, etc. . So, how can Paul do that without abrogating Scripture, if that is the only instance where homosexuality is described as wrong? Bottom line- it describes a homosexual, vice ridden lifestyle shown best in Genesis 19:5-9:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
So, obviously, it’s a pretty hedonistic lifestyle according to the text, and I see no mention of a temple here. Therefore I say that the argument is a misnomer, lame as it already was.
Myth #5 “All you Christians do is use the Bible to justify your own bigotry and hate!”
Answer- Wrong. All we do is speak the truth from the Scripture. All people that argue this fall into the words of the Apostle when he said, ” For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts.” (II Timothy 4:3). This also goes with Romans 1:21-27:
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Our REAL motivation:
Proverbs 14:34- Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin condemns any people.
Leviticus 5:1- “‘If anyone sins because they do not speak up when they hear a public charge to testify regarding something they have seen or learned about, they will be held responsible.
Therefore, by the mandates of our God, if we fail to speak out about of these things, we are just as guilty as the homofascists. Believers who espouse these things as pure and proper are even more so guilty. Galatians 1:8, Romans 16:17, Jeremiah 23:16, and Psalms 138:2 condemn people such as this absolutely.
What I’m getting at is this (and WAY more to come on the topic): If we as believers are supposed to bow to the god of PC and ‘tolerate’ you, to accept you as people and actually care about people. You should be sensitive to the fact that in our belief in the hereafter it is mandated that we speak out the truth of Scripture. So basically you feel we should go to hell just to make you feel better…? Sorry, not going to happen! I don’t care for my children and wife that much, let alone you! I’d fight to the gates of hell for them (and you), but nothing and no one will stop me from hearing the voice of Jesus saying, “Well done, good and faithful servant!”
Baruch Hashem!
Pastor Junior
all you are doing is “speaking the truth of the scripture”, really? Calling people you don’t agree with derogatory names (‘homofacist’), your scripture tells you to do that does it?
For the record, the marriage rights that same-sex couples want are CIVIL MARRIAGE not religious marriage. You are free to deny anyone you want marriage (or communion) in your church.
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Ken,
Thanks indeed for your reply. Yes, speaking the truth of Scripture is EXACTLY what I did. I picked that name as a brief descriptive of how these people behave (not homosexuals in general, I wanted to make a distinction). People deny the existence of a militant gay lobby. Thus, the distinction is made. And if it’s not how you feel they act, you are either blind or blissfully ignorant.
That being said, for the record, I fully intend on going into why denying CIVIL marriage to same-sex couples is a very wise thing to do for America in future posts. And also, FOR THE RECORD, were I a full-time pastor I wouldn’t deny marriage or communion to a homosexual…as soon as they repented of their sin, and had an opposite sex partner.
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So, are you claiming that “homofacist” isn’t a derogatory term? Or that it is okay to use derogatory terms as long as you believe the people deserve to be called names? Or is there some other point that I’m missing?
And just to be clear, who are you referring to with the term, specifically? I.e. how about a few names so I can get an idea of what you mean by “militant gay lobby”.
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Ken,
Was just about to get to that. Might be a derogatory term. But, for one, it’s nothing that others who object to SSM on other than religious terms haven’t also used, like Limbaugh or Mark Levin. Like I said, it’s a term I used to distinguish between your garden-variety gay people and those who would attempt to silence the Church on these matters, and force their own agenda by law on the people of America. Also, is it any more derogatory than “bigot”, “racist”, “homophobe” or any of the other multiple derogatory terms these people have for Christians?
Homofacists AKA the gay militant lobby. Let’s see who I could include in that group…let’s start with the activist federal judges that overruled the laws banning SSM in Utah, South Carolina, and recently, Virginia, voted in by the people of those states by popular vote. Judicial tyranny is another topic coming soon to this page. Several in the entertainment industry, including A&E, who bowed to pressure from GLAAD to suspend the Duck Dynasty for doing less than what I did here. Pick a movie star on the topic. GLAAD, GLSEN, NAMBLA, to name a few special interest lobbies for SSM. Most of your labor unions are pro-SSM, basically because they’re so in bed with the DNC they wouldn’t dare stray from the party line. Basically anyone with a progressive liberal political agenda.
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so back to my original question, you believe your religion says it is okay to denigrate others, by using derogatory terms to describe them?
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Homofascists. So question: what do you call Christians like RJ Rushdoony (a Reconstructionist/theonomist) who believes heresy and blasphemy should be punished with fines or imprisonment and homosexuals (along with “incorrigible” youths) should get the death penalty? Would you agree that he’s a “Christofascist”?
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Absolutely I would, and thank you for bringing that up. I believe that I mentioned int he article that there are extremists on both sides, and I hold to that. I also believe that I mentioned others of that caliber (AKA Westboro Baptist and their ilk) with similar disdain in part 2 of this series, Homofascism Defined. On strict definition, I would say yes there are “Christofascists”. In this particular instance, however, I would label THIS guy more along the lines of “heretic” and dismiss him out of hand before it even got to that.
We believers who practice our beliefs in facets outside the 4 walls of our Church don’t necessarily want some kind of Christian “Sharia law”. All we asked is that our voice be heard in the public square without fear of the types of BDS-esque reprisals that are starting to come out in modern society.
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Did I use a derogatory term? Facism is a system of government. Homofascism is simply that system of government; fascist in nature, that uses homosexuality to rally supporters and sympathizers, like yourself, to it’s cause. It’s a term of description, no different that calling someone a Christian conservative, or a Tea Bagger. Does my religion say it’s OK to call people those names? Other, less than kind terms, were used for the enemies of Israel in the Bible, like ‘uncircumcised Philistine’.
What it sounds like to me is you want me to treat people with kid gloves while they can say or do whatever they want when it comes to me. What I used isn’t a denigrating term, and if that’s your biggest point, you’re really stretching. I could’ve called them Fluffies and you would’ve said it was a denigrating term, because you’re doing nothing other than to try and say I’m wrong because I’m playing by something other than what you think should be my rules. I’m not going to type oout every detail of the militant gay agenda every time I point them out. I gave them a name so I didn’t have to. Could’ve called them Red Doper Diaper Babies like Levin, but that’s denigrating, and I chose not to use it.
This is nothing more than a lame attempt to make me out to be some kind of bigot. If that’s the best you’ve got, nice try. Godwin’s law-if you don’t agree with me and I can’t demolish your argument, I’m going to label you a racist or some other type of prejudicial person to attempt to smear your credibility. Not going to fall for it. I won’t say right or wrong, but the Bible has used worse terms to describe the enemies of Israel and Israel’s God. Take it however you like.
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“Might be a derogatory term.”
your own words. “homofascist” is a made up term, and by your own admission, you apply it to such a wide group of people, it basically means anybody who disagrees with you.
You don’t discuss, you attack and demean those you disagree with, and that is what you think being christian is?
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No, that’s not what I feel being a Christian is, nor did I write the article to discuss what being a Christian is. You seem to be bound and determined to stick me with the “meanie Christian homophobe” tag because you can’t deal with the fact that I’m right as far as what I wrote, so you intend on shifting the topic, and I won’t stoop to the argument any longer. Yes, I think it perfectly OK to use the term “homofascist” and be a Christian. End of discussion.
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You are right, I’m not interested in debating scripture with you. What I’m trying to point out is that your use of derogatory terms reflects badly on christians. You insult and denigrate those who disagree with you and wonder why you can’t have an honest open discussion.
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“You are right, I’m not interested in debating scripture with you”
Because you couldn’t if you tried.
“What I’m trying to point out is that your use of derogatory terms reflects badly on Christians”
Wrong. What reflects badly on Christians is when folks like yourself bag on the Bible, and insult us calling us homophobe, bigot, intolerant, and backwards, and twist the Scripture, Christians stand aside and do nothing about it because people like you expect us to play by some PC rules you yourselves don’t adhere to. This was a 2,100 word post, and I put 1, exactly 1, non-PC word in it, purposefully (a cop would call it a hold out) to make a point. All the blogosphere should take note. This is the tactic of the militant gay lobby. If they can’t argue with you, they apply a false double standard to Christians especially and attempt to denigrate your argument by enforcing it and then trying to shout you down. Even Christ called the Pharisees a “brood of vipers”.
“You insult and denigrate those who disagree with you and wonder why you can’t have an honest open discussion.”
Nobody, especially not you, came here to have an honest, open discussion. Don’t need to agree with you to do that. You came for no other reason than to bash on me using one word that wasn’t even an insult, because debating the Scripture (the whole topic of the article) was something you weren’t interested in debating.
I’ll go get a cup of coffee while you reply. Gonna be a long morning…
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I haven’t said anything about your bible, nor called you any of the terms you said. You are making all sorts of assumptions about me because I disagreed with your use of the term “homofacist”. which IS a derogatory term. And your justifications of your use show you intended it in a derogatory manner.
And it is clear we can’t have a civil discussion.
good day.
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Good day! Thanks for stopping by…
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From the urban dictionary (www.urbandictionary.com)
Homofascist-advocate of an authoritarian system of government and social organization that enables special privileges for homosexuals and makes people of faith subordinate.
Proof positive that it’s not a term I made up, nor is it a derogatory one.
Wake up.
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Pastor Junior, I really appreciate your comments. I am so tired of being bullied by Christians who think I’ve got it all wrong because I stand on Scripture rather than bow down to the militant gay agenda. I did not expect so much opposition from Christian friends who think I’m sinful for speaking out against the LGBT agenda. This is not just a cultural war. They have won the cultural war by sheer force. It is primarily a spiritual war and they cannot and will not win the spiritual battle. God already has.
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Thank you, Helen. It’s really nice to know who’s out there reading and who’s on the front lines of the spiritual and cultural war going on with you. The one thing we always must remember is that we will win.
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