Funny pic about Law vs Grace that I just hadta reblog….
THE 613 LAWS of the OLD TESTAMENT
Called the Mitzvot- It is the natural law, literally meaning “Commandments”. My presupposition is that the Bible as we
know it, all 66 books, are indeed synchronous. That meaning; where we find a Law in the Mitzvot, we will find an
overriding principle in the New Testament.
Now there are indeed caveats to this…
1. What was an Earthly and Physical Kingdom is now a Spiritual Kingdom, and that the Old Testament was a type or
shadow of the New. (I Corinthians 15:46, John 18:36)
2. We can understand all mysteries of the Scripture by understanding the principles and operations of nature surrounding
us. (Romans 1:20)
GOD- Mitzvot about God and how to treat God isn’t generally argued over. But how would someone know these things
or their value without first studying the NATURAL pattern found in the Torah?
1.To know that God exists (Ex. 20:2; Deut. 5:6)
John 1:1, Hebrews 3:4
2.Not to entertain the idea that there is any god but the Eternal (Ex. 20:3)
Matthew 4:10, Luke 4:8
3.Not to blaspheme (Ex. 22:27-28 ) Lev 24:16
4.To hallow God’s name (Lev. 22:32)
5.Not to profane God’s name (Lev. 22:32)
Psalms 1:1, Luke 12:7-12
6.To know that God is One, a complete Unity (Deut. 6:4)
7.To love God (Deut. 6:5)
8.To fear Him reverently (Deut. 6:13; 10:20)
Psalms 111:10, Proverbs 1:7, Proverbs 9:10, John 5:44
9.Not to put the word of God to the test (Deut. 6:16)
Matthew 4:7, Luke 4:12
10.To imitate His good and upright ways (Deut. 28:9)
Matthew 5:48, John 14:15
The Law- Mitzvot about this is usually only argued when the one aruing knows that they are breaking the Law and therefore must defend or justify themselves in some way. The danger of this aside from the obvious folly is that if they manage to convince themselves they’re right they slip into a pattern of sin AKA iniquity.
11. To honor the old and the wise (Lev. 19:32)
I Timothy 5:1
12.To learn Torah and to teach it (Deut. 6:7)
Phillipians 4:9, 2 Timothy2:2
13.To cleave to those who know Him (Deut. 10:20)
Hebrews 10:25, I Peter 2:17
14.Not to add to the commandments of the Torah (Deut.13:1)
15.Not to take away from the commandments of the Torah (Deut.13:1)
16.That every person shall write a scroll of the Torah for himself (Deut. 31:19)
SIGNS AND SYMBOLS- This is what I like to call a sticky wicket. However, it’s plain to see that Christ intended all along to be a part of the Commonwealth of Israel, separate and recognizably so from the world around us. Not for the world to be so churchy and the Church to be so worldly that no one can tell the difference.
17.To circumcise the male offspring (Gen. 17:12; Lev. 12:3)
Romans 2:28-29, Deuteronomy 30:6, 10:12-16
18.To put fringes on the corners of clothing (Num. 15:38)
II Corinthians 6:17, I Peter 1:13
19.To bind God’s Word on the head (Deut. 6:8)
Hebrews 8:10, II Corinthians 10:5
20.To bind God’s Word on the arm (Deut. 6:8)
Hebrews 10:16, Colosians 3:23
21.To affix the mezuzah to the door posts and gates of your house (Deut. 6:9)
II Cor. 6:17, Matthew 21:13
Prayer and Blessing
(All inclusive: The Lord’s Prayer)
22.To pray to God (Ex. 23:25; Deut. 6:13)
Phillipians 4:6, Hebrews 4:16
(Laws 23&24 II Corinthians 6:17)
23.To read the Shema [lit:The Hearing] in the morning and at night (Deut. 6:7)
24.To recite grace after meals (Deut. 8:10)
25.Not to lay down a stone for worship (Lev. 26:1)
This is the beginnings of a several part series, and I look forward to sharing the journey with all of you.
B’Shem Yeshua HaMaschiach!
About 6 months ago, I set out upon a journey through the Scriptures. I set out to prove what I believe; that the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, is synchronous. In other words; where you find a law or statute in the Old Testament, you find a principle in the New Testament. It will be revealed in sections, because there are after all 613 Laws in the Mitzvot. However; I believe with much prompting and guidance of the Holy Spirit, and while under the greatest attack of the Evil One I’ve ever experienced, I’ve seen this challenge met through me.
This is dedicated to all the truth seekers, to those who really want to know why we believe what we do instead of merely knowing what we believe and looking foolish when someone comes along with a better argument. To you I issue this challenge; to be Bereans, to really thoroughly search out the Scripture and challenge me on any point on which I could improve. Any good spiritual leader would welcome any challenge in the Scripture, knowing what he says is solid in the Faith. This blog section is also dedicated to another group: The Reviler. The scoffers, the hyper-Gracers, the ultra-Dispensationalists, the feel good nicey nice Gospel types who think that somehow the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has gone soft. This is for the homofascists that sit in pulpits and say that God condones now what He called an abomination worthy of death long ago, and give it legal sanction with the faux blessing of the god of Scripture, and criticize Men of God who stand up for the Bible truth. God has NOT changed! He still has Laws and we STILL have to attempt to follow them.
There are, caveats to what I am about to say. There’s no exact number of laws that match the 613 Mitzvot. God does not reitierate in the New Covenant (testament, brit chadasha for all you Hebrew lovers out there). I’ll give examples:
1. Romans 1:20 – For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. So we can observe what we don’t understand by observing nature. Jesus Himself only taught two ways: parables and object lessons. Even Solomon taught that way (observe the ant…). So it can be easily understood that God created in the Mitzvot a natural example of how we are to live. Job 12:7, Psalms, Proverbs 6:6. We then have to bring in the question of types and shadows, because we obviously don’t have linen robes that give us righteousness…. Here are a few rules I use. At least 1 corroborating Scripture must be used to establish a type or shadow, preferably 2. Also, if someone just says it’s so and you don’t like how it sits with you, study it out for yourself. I’ll use this principle for an example, and it is what I challenged the truth seekers reading this to do. If they don’t back it with Scripture, have nothing to do with it.
2nd Caveat: I Corinthians 15:44-46 – 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
So; as we can see from the example of Christ, the Old Testament natural sacrificial order as propitiation for sin were made spiritual by Christs sacrifice on Calvary (John 5:26).
This will lead into my first examples in the Law concerning priests and sacrifices, but this is all I will be writing for now.
B’Shem Yeshua HaMaschiach!
Now, I’m that many of you assume that Brotherhood of the Blood is intended to be just another apologist website or Uber-Christian political rant page, judging from many of the posts here. Although we do speak the truth in love, we will not cater to sin to the degree of that we fall short of the truth of scripture. However, Brotherhood of the Blood intends to speak of truth in love. We consider it to be an online ministry.We share the truth of scripture, and we care about each and every person that sees our page and reads our posts. Along with addressing the issues the day, we wish to share the good news of the word with every creature, as the great commission tells us to do.
So, in keeping with our principles, we are opening up Brotherhood of the Blood to take any and all prayer requests. Now for some ground rules. Now mind you, you needn’t follow any of the rules here in order to have us praying for you. These are not hard and fast demands, but merely suggestions that are put out there so that you feel comfortable in sharing your requests with us, and so that we are more adequately equipped to seek the Face of God on your behalf.
First, we ask that you do not post requests in the comment section. This is to ensure your absolute privacy and discretion. We ask that you submit your prayer requests to the e-mail listed at the bottom of the page. If you wish for your prayer request to be listed in the comments section, please state this in your e-mail.
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Third. We ask that you send a return e-mail address, or some way of contacting you, particularly if you are looking for a specific word from the Lord. That way, if we receive such word, we can pass it to you.
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Pastor Junior & Staff
My apologies for being off for the last couple of weeks, folks. I’ve been dealing with a lot of issues here at home including health issues, so I took some time away. Not going to promise that I’ll be writing every day or every week, but I do my best as God permits to bring fresh Manna from His Word every chance I get. I’ll strive not to let you down again.
When I was a boy, I had several pastors that used to tell me, “Tom; new levels, new devils!”. That is to say; every time God promotes you in this life, every time you receive a fresh Word from Heaven, every time you discover something in the Word or by prophecy that transforms you, never expect for one minute that you won’t be challenged in some new way by the kingdom of darkness as well. Moreover, that challenge will always be something different, or a new wrinkle to an old challenge from the last time you withstood the enemy. Since I began posting this blog, I’ve ran into some new challenges. Not so much from the world, although those have come, and my regular readers and followers know best. They’ve come from the people that like to argue finer points of theology, and point finger at those who say otherwise as “false teachers”. Personally, I think they’re majoring in the minors. They need to get their beliefs on simpler things like salvation and such straight before they go tackling things like eschatology and such. So, with much prayer and contemplation, I’ve been given leading to address each of these one at a time. The other day, I found myself outnumbered and outshouted (even though I knew I was right) about how Tongues had ceased (although they balked about the other 8 Gifts) after the death of the last Apostle, how “modern” tongues were a bunch of gibberish and fake, how tongues have to be a “real” language, how tongues were strictly a “sign for the Jews” (although I’m still trying to find a Scriptural reference for that), how speaking in Tongues holds no power, and allegedly how Charismatics believe that one has to speak in Tongues in order to be saved. Didn’t make me doubt, but you can only quote Scripture for so long and be outshouted that you’re not “rightly dividing the Word of Truth” before you either start shouting back like the people you’re debating or you bow out and start studying out what they’re saying. I chose the latter; because it’s better than arguing with an idiot, and leaving the reader with doubt as to who’s who.
The Short Answer on Tongues (skirting the longhand)
Just to start the show, I can point out I Corinthians 14:37-40 (emphasis added):
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
Now I’ll be the first to admit, in some churches there is neither decency nor order when it comes to speaking in Tongues, and that there are both counterfeit tongues and even tongues that are a work of the devil in the world today (those will be addressed both here and in part 2 of this writing). This is a disease that needs to be inoculated against in the Body of Christ through the proper teaching of the Word. However; if it is the clear command of the Lord not to forbid speaking in Tongues, as it clearly is, WHO ARE YOU TO DEFY THE COMMAND OF GOD?! It would behoove you to heed the words of Gamaliel, the Rabbi and Pharisee teacher of the Apostle Paul in Acts 5:34-39 (emphasis added) when he said:
Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
So it seems to me no wonder that the ones who deny and even mock those who speak in Tongues are often angry people, who use current misuses of the Tongues and Gifts to deny it all, throwing out the baby with the bath water so to speak. As Jesus said to Saul on the Damascus Road, “It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.” So, they’ve come to find themselves fighting the very Hand of God.
Second; it has been indeed said that Tongues were a sign for the Jews, and speaking in Tongues was exclusive to the Jew. The latter being so thoroughly disproven that I won’t bother with the Scriptural proofs. But; as to Tongues being a sign to the Jews exclusively, I say we are all Jews via the sacrifice of the Cross. For it is written in Romans 11:17-24”
And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild bynature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
So, by all accounts in Scripture, we are as much a member of the Commonwealth of Israel as the one born there. That Tongues are merely a sign to the Jews doesn’t hold water.
Now let’s examine this claim that Tongues are a bunch of gibberish…
What language does God speak?
So I found myself in a hearty debate with some brothers (and I do consider them brothers- even if they do have their theology upside down, inside out, and backwards) about the Holy Spirit, the Gifts, and Tongues. Now, being raised in a Pentecostal home back during the days when women wore the old-school beehive in the name of holiness (but definitely had what they talked about), and revival services were well known to last for days and revivals for weeks and even years in some cases, I believe in the Gifts and Tongues. Only took watching broken bones snap back into place and be confirmed the next day to have healed miraculously, and experiencing my first deliverance from evil spirits at age 7, and watching how the old saints worshipped and how strong they were in the Word and how they appropriately exercised the Gifts to convince me for life. It’s all real!
But I found myself outnumbered and outshouted in debate, and felt ill prepared, and so, I began reading a book by Perry Stone on the subject (1). Right in the beginning, he recounts a meeting he had in Jerusalem with the late Rabbi Yehuda Getz, former Priest in charge of the Western Wall. Perry and Rabbi Getz began discussing Gifts and Tongues, and on the subject of Tongues, Rabbi Getz almost nonchalantly says, “Oh, you mean the Language of God?”. He then goes on to recount an oral tradition passed down through generations of the Aaronic Priesthood. The tradition is that when the High Priest would step into the Kodesh haKodeshim on Yom Kippur to make atonement for the people, he would begin to speak in a language that only he and God could understand. Once he left, he could remember what was said but could not speak the language (2). Noting the miraculous nature of this, it begged one question for me…what language does God speak?
In the Beginning…
Then I started searching the Scriptures. I started finding evidences that God does indeed have His own language, and it has not changed, and Adam and the earliest humans were able to speak it. More importantly, I found evidences that it is still spoken in the Heavenlies today. Bold assertions to be sure, but examine the evidence. Adam, as part of his assignment, was given a propensity for speech. Genesis 2:19 states:
“And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.”
This means that given Adam was to name and exercise dominion over every creature, he had to have language. God must also have indeed spoken this language for it is written in Genesis 1:26:
“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
Also evidentiary to this, it is written also in Genesis that God and Adam conversed in this language together. Written in Genesis 2:16-17:
“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
So it’s clear by the Scriptures that God, Adam, and Eve all spoke the same language that was spoken in the Heavenlies. Oddly enough, there’s someone else in the story that spoke the same language…satan. Satan, before his fall, was an Angel and the Worship leader of Heaven. This alone is proof to me that not only does God have His own language, but has a propensity to allow it to be used in song. Ezekiel 28 states:
“Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.”
And in I Corinthians 13:1 (emphasis added):
“Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.”
So satan speaks, and sings, and was in the Garden. He speaks the tongue of the Angels, as he was one. So, this serves as evidence that this was the language spoken in Heaven. But does it prove that this was the language spoken in the Garden? Let’s examine further. Genesis 3 shows conversation between all of the above (emphasis added):
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. 8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. 9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. 13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. 14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. 20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. 21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.”
Sooooo, it looks like there is indeed a “Language of God”, and that it’s an ACTUAL language (and NOT 15th century English), and that God, humanity being proceeded from Adam, and the Angels fallen or not, can speak it. Moreover, neither God quit speaking it after the Fall, nor humanity, nor the Angels or satan and his demons. This was one language spoken from the Garden, through the Flood and the Nephilim’s rise and fall, until the Tower of Babel. This is where things begin to get interesting. Let’s examine. Genesis 11:1, 6-9:
Vs.1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Again, it looks like there was indeed one language. This story also interests me on a few other levels. First; in verse 1 it shows that the people all spoke one language and spoke the same things. This is confirmed in verse 6 by God Himself saying, “the people are one…”. To me, this brings to mind another passage of Scripture, one that’s a bit more on topic. Acts 2:1:
“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place…”
So what are you saying, you may ask? I’m saying very succinctly that Tongues is not even gibberish. I’m saying that God has a Language that He permits some of us to speak and interpret, and that He speaks to us spirit to spirit with, and that He allows us to sing to Him in, all of which is found in I Corinthians 12. And I think that the Word and the admittedly oft-misguided and tragically secular modern linguistic sciences agree with me and corroborate one another. That the Gift of Tongues, Prayer Language, Interpretation of Tongues, and Singing in Tongues are all an actual language.
For about the last 100 years, linguistic scientists have begun studying the Proto-Human Language theory (3), or what has been called the Mother Tongue theory(4). Most agree (including Darwin, although I’m not a fan) in the monogenesis of language. That all language on Earth began in one place with one language. This would be in perfect corroboration with the Biblical account of Genesis chapters 1-11 and with the account of God’s scattering of the people across the earth and the confounding of their languages in Genesis 11:7-8.
Now one would ask why God would speak to and through His people in a language that no one on earth speaks anymore. Well, let me go to the Scripture on this one, and see if you find this out of context. I Corinthians 15:45:
“And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.”
So it is in context that the Holy Spirit also speaks this language. This would be the same Holy Spirit that dwells in every believer, Romans 8:11:
“But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”
So if the Holy Spirit dwells in us, and speaks the Language of God, if He speaks through us we can speak it. And; according to Acts 2:4 it is indeed the Holy Spirit who gives utterance. As it is in Romans 8:26 and I Corinthians 12:11. I will give them respectively:
Romans 8:26-27- Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what isthe mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
I Corinthians 12:11 (emphasis mine)- But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
Scientists have tried using these theories to decode the syntax of this language and figure out by reverse engineering modern and even ancient languages to figure out how to speak it, to little avail. About as close as they’ve gotten is to discover a strange codex, how to tell emotion from speech of some of the dialects that would’ve been soon after the language’s confounding, or actually been a part of it, they can’t tell, but not the original (one of these is called the lying dialect or liars’ tongue, more on this soon as this corroborates John 8:44, gives me the creeps…). Most scientists of today have grown frustrated with trying to decode it and have actually banded together as a scientific discipline to consciously not pursue it, as they fear their failure would bring embarrassment upon and discredit their field. This to me would corroborate the story of a very real God confounding the language. His words on the matter, Isaiah 22:22:
“And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.”
And Revelation 3:7:
“And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;”
And there frustration is by God’s design. His Words from Isaiah 29:13-16:
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter’s clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
Here’s what we’ve established so far:
– God has a Language all His own
– It was spoken by mankind in the Garden, until Babel
– The Holy Spirit, as part of the Trinity, speaks this language
– All human language was derived from the Language of God
– All of Heaven still speaks this language
So, it’s would be a reasonable hypothesis to say that if someone were speaking in Tongues as the Spirit gave utterance (AKA speaking through them), one would be able to and actually be quite adept at, speaking any language on the planet that God gives them to speak, or even to speak the base language itself, and for interpretation to be given by the same Spirit who gives utterance through us.
Did Tongues Cease with the Apostles…?
Then there is the argument that Tongues and the Gifts ceased to operate after the death of the Apostle John. Let us then examine both the Scripture and Christian history to see if this is true, to be Berean about it.
Well, I don’t think so. Short answer to why I don’t believe this is found in the Scripture. Romans 11:29 (emphasis added)
“For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”
And for those who doubt the Scripture here is taken in context, I Corinthians 12:4-6 (emphasis added):
“Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.”
And now for the Christian historical evidence that Tongues have never ceased. Tongues and miracles haven’t ceased in the Church, people just quit asking to receive. Just as the Priests in the Aaronic Priesthood felt that God had abandoned them during the 400 years of silence, and that there were to be no more true prophets, the Church abandoned the Gifts and Tongues after the Apostle John because the Apostles’ teachings on the matter were both hidden from destruction by Rome and their successors by and large were being slowly deceived by false teaching or being martyred by Rome. However; thanks be to God, their original teachings were found and there was a remnant that remained who still taught as they did and still practiced the Gifts and forbade not to speak in Tongues, as Paul commanded by the unction of the Lord.
So, this listing of great Men of God is actually a Hall of Fame of sorts for those who kept the True Faith alive:
Justin Martyr (100-165 AD) In his own writing, Dialogue with Trypho, states: “…prophetical gifts remain with us even now to the present time.”
Irenaeus (125-200 AD) In a work entitled, Against Heresies, says: “For some do certainly and truly drive out devils, so that those who have been thus cleansed from evil spirits frequently believe [in Jesus Christ for salvation], and join themselves to the Church. Others have foreknowledge of things to come: they see visions and utter prophetic expressions. Others still heal the sick by laying hands upon them, and they are made well.”
Tertullian (160-240 AD) In A Treatise on the Soul, says: “For seeing that we acknowledge the spiritual charismata, or gifts, we too have merited the attainment of the prophetic gift.”
Origen (185-284 AD) In his writing, Against Celsus, Origen says: “…for by these means we too have seen many persons freed from grievous calamities,…and countless other ills, which could not be cured neither by men nor devils…to these promises are added strange, fanatical and quite unintelligible words, of which no rational person can find the meaning.”
Pachomius (292-346 AD) An ancient writer describes Pachomius with the ability to speak in a language that he had not learned.
Ambrose (397 AD) In his theological work, entitled, Of the Holy Spirit, says:”…the Father gives the gift of tongues, so too has the Son also granted it. In like manner we have heard also above concerning the Holy Spirit that He too grants the same kinds of graces.” Please keep in mind that the church at this point is almost 400 years old and that the original disciples passed on about 250-300 years previous.
Augustine (354-430 AD) Augustine actually made derogatory remarks against miracles early on in his writings. But later in life he began to see miracles taking place before his very eyes. In one writing he even describes what some Charismatics might call, Singing in Tongues: “And for whom is such jubilation fitting if not for the ineffable God? For he is ineffable whom one cannot express in words; and if you cannot express him in words, and yet you cannot remain silent either, then what is left but to sing in jubilation, so that your heart may rejoice without words, and your unbounded joy may not be confined to the limits of syllables.”
Hildegard of Bingen (1098 AD) Apparently Hildegard was ridiculed for praying to the Lord for miracles and healings for individuals. According to referenced works, Hildegard also spoke and sang in tongues. Because of the great miracles that seemed to surround the life of Hildegard, and because many did not understand them, some actually said that it was the work of demons. Hildegard was actually defended by Bernard of Clairvaux, who encouraged a visit to Pope Eugenius III. In 1148, Pope Eugenius personally investigated the matter and said that the miracles should continue through Hildegard.
St. Stephen (1396 AD) St. Stephen on a mission to Georgia, is reported to have spoke in the tongues of the natives of the land in their own language-a language he had never learned before. Purportedly, St. Colette also spoke in tongues.
Martin Luther (1346-1546 AD) Martin Luther’s own hymn states that, “The Spirit and gifts are ours.” In Souer’s collection,A History of the Christian Church, he describes Martin Luther as: “a prophet, evangelist, speaker in tongues and interpreter, in one person, endowed with all the gifts of the Spirit.”
The Quakers (c. 1650) Edward Burroughs, a personal friend to George Fox, and an early Quaker, describes their charimata experience: “We received the pouring down of the Holy Spirit upon us, and the gift of God’s Holy eternal Spirit as in the days of old, and our hearts were made glad, and our tongues loosed, and our mouths opened, and we spoke with new tongues, as the Lord gave us utterance, and as His Spirit led us, which was poured down upon us, on sons and daughters.”
The Moravians (c. 1730) It is reported that the Moravians experienced a revival with speaking in tongues. A critic, John Roche, describes this phenomenon as such: “[the Moravians] commonly broke into…disconnected jargon…which they often passed on as…the exuberant and resistless evacuations of the Spirit.”
The Methodists (c. 1751) Thomas Walsh, a personal friend of John Wesley, wrote this in his own journal: “This morning the Lord gave me a language I knew not of, raising my soul to Him in a wonderful manner.”
Jonathan Edwards (c. 1750) Speaking in tongues was common during the Great Awakening revival. In a book called,Religious Enthusiasm and the Great Awakening, Mr. Lovejoy says: “These meetings would continue till 10, 11, 12 O’clock at night; …others made uttering ecstatic expressions…”
D.L. Moody (1837-1899) D.L. Moody, evangelist and co-founder of one of today’s most highly sought after Bible training institutions, said that he had an experience of the Holy Spirit subsequent to Salvation: “I was crying all the time that God would fill me with His Spirit. Well, one day, in the city of New York, oh, what a day!-I cannot describe it, I seldom refer to it; it is almost too sacred an experience to name…I went to preaching again. The sermons were not different; I did not present any new truths, and yet hundreds were converted…I would not be placed back where I was before that blessed experience for all the world…”
So; it would seem to me that unless you wanted to call all of these Great Men of Faith blasphemers, all these powerful teachers false, and all of these believers heretics (like the Catholic Church did most of them), you will see that Tongues did NOT cease. I’ll accept these men’s company over the cynic’s anyday.
So that’s about all I got to say on the matter. Baruch HaShem!
(1) Stone, Perry “Code of the Holy Spirit”
(2) Perry Stone in conversation with Rabbi Yehuda Getz, “Code of the Holy Spirit”, pages 3-4
In the writing of my last couple of posts, I received a lot of flak for using this word. Certain people said that it was meant as a derogatory term. But is it really…?
I used the word intentionally as a distinguishing term between the garden-variety homosexual and those who would suppress the Church in this hour. This was done because I recognize the difference between the two. The garden-variety homosexual is just a human being; a sinner just like everyone else on this planet who, but for the sacrifice of Christ on Calvary, is doomed to an eternity of darkness. I am bound by Scripture to love those people, and I love them with all the love that the Creator of this Universe allows me to have. No one can remain intellectually honest and say that homosexuality is not a violation of Scripture. We all know this, however I don’t condemn anyone merely on that, because in doing so I condemn myself.
That being said, now I can note the difference between homosexuality, homofascists and other sins. First of all, never in all my days have I seen one sin that is so vehemently defended, that part we will get to later. Second, no other sin is a lifestyle unto itself. Third; no other sin has so many people who not only willingly practice it knowing it is sin, but claim dishonestly and lie to themselves and others and claim it’s not sin, but want and expect other believers to co-sign on their sin by accepting their worldview and lifestyle as valid and not speaking the truth in love so as to let them be comfortable in it!
Enter the homofascist. Now I’m a big fan of irony; mostly because the more I live, the less I believe true irony exists. God has laws, such as the law of gravity, and given the example of law, violate God’s law by stepping off a building and see how expecting God not to enforce His law to keep you comfortable works for you. But, I find it ironic that the only people who get upset and calls terms such as this derogatory and denigrating are the ones on whom the shoe fits best. I love root words, because you can change the prefix and get the same basic meaning but more fitting to the scenario. For example; you can call someone an “Islamofascist” who favors Islam and wants to make people of other faiths subordinate. Or, using a different root word but gaining the same definition by example, call someone who advocates a system of government that enables special privileges for pro-choice people, makes people of faith subordinate, and favors the extermination of selective groups of the unborn on demand “feminazis”.
Oddly enough, the Bible has one word to fit all of these people: Revilers. It’s a term specific for one who hates, denies the truth of, twists, and maligns the truth of Scripture. Gay or straight or whatever, the homofascist fits the moniker the Scripture gives. Preachers who perform same-sex marriages, advocacy groups, violent mobs, politicians who favor these things, judges who overrule the people in favor of this agenda, school officials who treat Christian students prejudicially to employers who do the same. Homofascists all. Revilers all. And; contrary to popular belief the Christian is not only right, but obligated, to rebuke a reviler in whatever terms are necessary to do so. Sticks and stones, get over it. No different than you calling us a Conservative Christian or a Teabagger, like it’s a bad thing.
This is where I have to give the usual schpiel before I go any further. I don’t favor some armed peasant uprising against the government, or mob violence against these people. God has called us to cast down imaginations; thought systems, belief systems, demonic strongholds. Our weapons are not carnal. Therefore, Mr. President, you can keep your gestapo wrapped up in some DC office and not on my front doorstep. There, I said it. End disclaimer.
This goes out to our fellow believers. We are at WAR! The revilers have indeed come to take our way of life and destroy it and US! And it’s not like we chose the way of battle, the revilers have brought the fight to us. Rest assured, brother and sisters, they have drawn first blood and whether we fight or not, they will continue to do so until we are a footnote on the face of history. Might as well stand and fight! A coward dies a thousand deaths, a soldier dies one. Our Master has called us to battle, and it’s time to strap on our armor! Our Savior, Yeshua, has indeed promised us victory for honoring His Word and resisting the onslaught of the Evil One and his minions. But some of us need to be awakened. Hopefully this is the clarion call that does so.
A little history lesson for you, if you will indulge me. BDS is an acronym that stands for Boycott, Disinvest, and Sanction. It’s a means by which a fascist regime takes a select group of people and systematically separates them from a society in order to be exterminated. It removes all finance, all means of material gain, and in effect segregates them from the rest of that society; making them a pariah subculture in that society. This was the method that Hitler used against the Jews in the years leading up to WWII and the Holocaust, in order to remove Jewish influence in society and remove from them all means to fight and even live. It made them so poor and so demoralized that they were easily segregated when the time came, and then the thought of obtaining work by boarding a train and not asking any questions as to where you were going and when you would be back was quite tempting. After all, the government would never do that, they are obligated to have our best interest at heart…sound familiar? It should. It’s happening today to Christians and Jews alike. They boycott our labor for our views, our businesses, and seek to destroy our reputation so all others will do the same. They disinvest, so that no new enterprise we try to start can be funded to even get off the ground. Kill it before it grows. And they sanction and fine us through the courts by labeling our constitutionally protected words “hate speech”, costing millions annually in fees and fines as a community. Before you label me a conspiracy theorist, examine the evidence (citation: all examples taken from www.wnd.com).
Since I’m kind of missing home right now, and looking forward to summer to take a road trip home to see the folks, let’s start with a classic example from my hometown, Toledo, Ohio:
So your reviler would say to this, “Oh, boohoo! We’d all lose our jobs for saying something our boss doesn’t like!” True, but in Academia, this is supposed to be protected speech.
Now that I’m kind of in the groove here, let’s bypass the typical BDS and go straight into documented cases of violence, and/or threats of violence, from our oh so peaceful and non-violent homofascist types. They should truly be thankful that Christians are not allowed by God to play by their rules…:
Let us begin with the threatening of the life of a 14 year old boy. Hey Liberal Pastors, is THIS the “love” you’re sticking up for?…
- when a 14-year-old receives death threats for defending traditional/natural marriage.
When those who advocate defining marriage as between a man and a woman face intimidation, vandalism, racial scapegoating, blacklisting, loss of employment, economic hardships, angry protests, violence, at least one death threat, and gross expressions of anti-religious bigotry.
- Police report documenting extensive amount of death threats made by homosexualists during the Prop 8 ordeal.
- Calls for Melanie Phillips to be killed this week prove the bedrock values of our society are in grave danger.
Oh look! A seated State Senator. I bet there wasn’t one arrest…
- Jose Nunez, 37, received 16 stitches after pro-gay-marriage protesters beat him when he tried to hand out pro-Prop-8 signs at his church. Only WND and local religious media are reporting it.
Now if any paper I have ever heard of (including the very liberal and corrupt Toledo Blade, apologies to the good people who work there, no apologies to the Blocks) had published something THIS hate-laced about homosexuals, there would have been rioting for weeks. Again, they can be thankful we aren’t allowed to play by their rules…
Use AND abuse of public officials! How avant garde!
- Firefighters forced to attend “gay” pride parade where they endured a barrage of sexual taunts and lewd gestures.
- Homosexual activist “leader” of the so-called “It Gets Better” Campaign conducted an act of hate (germ warfare) on a Republican candidate Gary Bauer for his view on same-sex “marriage.”
OMG if somebody tried these next ones where I attend service! Ain’t a leash BIG enough to pull me off!…
- Self-proclaimed “gay, anarchist group” storms church service declaring, “Jesus is a homo!” Local news poll finds majority of viewers support the protest:
- Bricks, including threatening note, are thrown through window at Christian Liberation Academy by homosexual activists.
“For God has not given us a spirit of fear; but of power, love, and a sound mind.”
- The group that allegedly smashed up a Portland church hopes its “small act of vengeance will strike fear into the hearts of” Christian leaders who teach traditional sexual morality, according to an e-mail message the group released to the public.
And, now we’re even getting into cyberterrorism! Wouldn’t venture into whether there was an arrest made here, either…
Where are the arrests? The public outrage? The news media with expose after expose, targeting their finances, their sponsors, their celebrity supporters? The public and messy trials and scandals that the public seems to get off on? Where’s Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and all these so-called “Liberal Pastors” when things like THIS happen?! All those things don’t exist, because these things were perpetrated on Christians! I guess violence only works one way, justice is only served one way. It’s proof positive in my mind that the police are in on the act, acting as the government’s agenda gestapo.
Now let’s see. All this violence, and I wonder what the arrest percentage is here. Probably not very high, at least from what I’ve read. But there’s plenty of example of Christians being arrested simply for what they say. Another irony, and a rather cruel one in this case; Christians and homofascists have the same protections under law. THE EXACT SAME PROTECTIONS, protected class under the 13th and 14th Amendments and all. Even in the foreign countries mentioned here, there is freedom of speech for Christian folks. Yet, let’s compare the above VIOLENCE and THREATS and subsequent arrest records to those of Christians who simply speak the truth as viewed from their protected class:
- In a Mexican case, Fr. Hugo Valdemar was found guilty on July 1st of illegal political activity because he stated that Catholics should not vote for candidates who support same-sex marriage.
- A Swedish pastor who preached a sermon on the Biblical prohibitions against homosexual behavior is waiting to see if the Supreme Court of Sweden will send him to jail for six months for doing so.
- A Christian street preacher was arrested and locked in a cell for telling a passer-by that homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God.
- Lexington, Mass., father of 6-year-old arrested, spends night in jail over objections to homosexual curriculum in son’s kindergarten class. Homosexuals invading a church and throwing condoms all over the place.
Pretty safe to say that our public institutions have indeed been infiltrated. Let’s move on to another public institution that Hitler used quite effectively both to recruit elite soldiers who shared his crazed political and racial ideology, and to implement both on society. Let’s look at the public school system:
- Mississippi school sued by ACLU for canceling prom over lesbian couple attended after memorandum from the school given to students, dated Feb. 5, which states that prom dates must be of the opposite sex.
- Here’s an LGBT publication desperately and through the use of unrelated arguments trying to convince people that they’re not getting the whole story and that the student harassed the teacher for the teacher being homosexual.
- This short documentary covers FIRE’s case at Missouri State University, where social work student Emily Brooker was threatened with expulsion after she refused (as a matter of personal belief) to send a signed letter to the Missouri state legislature in favor of homosexual foster parenting and adoption:
- Grad student at Augusta State University who sued the school over a clash between her grad program requirements and her religious beliefs on homosexual behavior.
Now that we’ve covered the overt, violent, and intrepid infiltration of our society by homofascism, let us now turn to the governmemtal, social, and economic efforts of the more traditional BDS that has been practiced by dictators for the last 100 years or so. Still no sign of all the Liberal Preachers that preach love and so-called tolerance…:
Homosexual activists charge the medical establishment with “homophobia” for reporting that people living the homosexual lifestyle have a much higher prevalence of HIV and other STDs, and yet using that very same information to complain the group’s health issues are ignored.
- A homosexual couple sues Bed & Breakfast, because owners moral beliefs couldn’t allow homosexual sex to be engaged in on their property.
- New Jersey teacher suspended for not approving of attempts to homosexualize children on her own Facebook in her own home.
- Prince has stated the he believes that God ordained marriage between one man and one woman only. In the following pro-homosexual article, Wendy and Lisa responded with, “Until he calls Lisa and I up and apologizes to us personally, we don’t want anything to do with his projects again.”
- Apple, who boasts about their diversity, can’t seem to show the same towards former homosexuals. Exodus App removed.
- Carrie Prejean harassed by homosexual activist (Perez Hilton) for expressing the biblical view of marriage.
- A Christian couple opposed to homosexual behavior because of their faith, lost a court battle on Monday over the right to become foster parents.
- A Christian photographer in New Mexico was found guilty last week of breaking state law for refusing to take pictures of a lesbian ceremony, as if it’s a civil right to have your picture taken by somebody of your choice.
- The Catholic Diocese of Rockford, Ill., announced the closing of their adoption agencies last week, forced out of service due to new legislation that would oblige them to service homosexual couples.
- There’s a homosexual nightclub in Tampa called the HoneyPot that has one night open for those who have a preference for the opposite sex. Imagine what would happen if a regular night club advertised that they only allow homosexuals in 1 night a week?
- They even have created a Facebook page for it, and take a look at the comments made by the homosexualists throughout the page.
- A Christian pediatrician who was dismissed from an adoption panel over her belief that children should not be placed with same-sex couples.
- A homosexual group has filed a discrimination complaint against Hands On Originals: Christian Outfitters after the company refused to honor a bid to produce apparel for an event that promotes homosexuality.
- Soros-funded “civil rights” group in New York files huge, 47-page lawsuit in federal court accusing Pastor Scott Lively of “crimes against humanity” — for pro-family speeches in Uganda.
- Consumer rights under attack: California senator introduces legislation that undermines parental authority and the therapist–client relationship.
And then you even have liberal, homosexual members of academia ADMITTING to the fact that homosexuality and fascism have ALWAYS been tied together…
- Here’s a self-admitted left-wing homosexual journalist on left-wing site who admits that there has always been a link between homosexual behavior and fascism.
If there has ever been a time in this world’s history when the Church of the Living God needs to stand up and fight the ills of her day is now! Our times compel it, our Faith demands it, our Nation needs it, and God Almighty is not only watching but has promised us victory simply for standing on His Word and never backing down!
Once again I say STAND STRONG, CHURCH! FIGHT!
THIS IS OUR JIHAD!
YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!
It’s Yiddish. Means, “there’s no lock on a mouth”. Thank God, because after this post, I’m sure there will be people who would like to do exactly that with me!
First, I’d like to say this is not necessarily a treatise against homosexual people. We as believers are not called to be against any one person, nor label a person as bad. This isn’t the case. We love people, as is our mandate from the Scripture. (John 15:12-15):
12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friendsif you do what I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants,[a] for the servant[b] does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.
We do; however, stand against what I and some others have come to call HOMOFASCISM. Homofascism is simply the concerted efforts of some in media, business, government, and the judicial systems of America today that would give homosexuals legal standing to marry, and even some in the Church that have been so duped as to believe that somehow this is right by the annals of Scripture. This is the one thing that galls believers like myself. II Corinthians 10:4-6 is quite clear as to how to believe and act in such circumstances:
4for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. 5We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, 6and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete
So it is not PEOPLE that we have a problem with, but a speculation, an argument, an imagination that somehow sets itself against the Supremacy of Christ. For it is indeed written that He is called the Word of God (John 1:14). So, to somehow justify this, some in the homofascist sect have begun as they did in the ’70s attempting to make Biblical arguments to justify the homosexual lifestyle. I will address these one by one.
Myth #1- “Jesus never addressed homosexuality”
Answer- This is a propagandized statement. Jesus never used the exact words, “homosexuality is wrong”. Neither did He use the words, “Don’t smoke crack”, or, “don’t sleep with a gorilla”. First of all, Christ didn’t attempt to prove or disprove a negative. He simply defined what was good and proper in the eyes of God and labeled all others abberant. In Matthew 19:4-6 He stated the real form of marriage:
4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’[b] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Not a whole lot of room for conjecture here. Jesus makes plenty clear what His intentions for marriage are.
Second, Jesus couldn’t justify homosexuality and be the perfect sacrifice for humanity. Scripture is quite clear that He HAD to fulfill ALL the Law and the words of the Prophets in order to be the Maschiach. In Matthew 5:17-20 it says:
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Which leads me to myths #2 and #3.
Myth #2- First of all the Law is meant for the Jews, and it doesn’t apply today for the modern believer. Therefore, the Law is inapplicable to homosexuals as it is in all other facets.
Answer- WRONG! First of all, for all that written on the Law vs. Grace (and this is really a misnomer, the Bible is symbiotic), I would refer you to another post on this page called “Part 4: is the Law only for the Jews?”, and “I am a Messianic, part 2 Law or Grace? Let’s try BOTH!”. It DOES apply for the modern believer, obviously, as even Jesus stated in Matthew 5:18-20. Also, 2/3 of our modern Bible is the Old Testament. How can we somehow ignore that? We can’t merely pick and choose what does and does not. Of course, knowing the Bible helps, and a lot of people these days (including a lot of the preachers who espouse these things) don’t.
Myth #3- The New Testament is misinterpreted, and no other verses justify it. It states that people shouldn’t sleep with anyone against their orientation.
Answer- No, on several different levels. I Corinthians 6:9-11 states this on so many things:
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
What’s interesting here is Paul uses Scripture to collaborate Scripture here. He’s actually quoting here…FROM THE LAW! Look at Leviticus:
Fornicators- Leviticus 21:13-15-13 And he shall take a wife in her virginity. 14 A widow or a divorced woman or a defiled woman or a harlot—these he shall not marry; but he shall take a virgin of his own people as wife. 15 Nor shall he profane his posterity among his people, for I the Lord sanctify him.’”
Idolators- Leviticus 18:21 And you shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God: I am the Lord.
Adunterers: Leviticus 20:10 ‘The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death.
Homosexuals: Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
Sodomites (more on this): Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no ritual harlot[b] of the daughters of Israel, or a perverted[c] one of the sons of Israel.” Note the distinction between this and the description of the homosexual in Leviticus 18..
The List goes on and on. Pretty clear that Paul was quoting the Law as to who was violating the Law and who wasn’t inheriting the Kingdom of God.
Myth #4 The word ‘Sodomite’ in Scripture is translated to mean ‘temple prostitute’. Thus since we homosexuals are not ‘temple prostitutes’, the Law doesn’t apply to us.
Answer- Interesting. At the very least the best bunk argument I’ve seen thus far. For starters, it doesn’t justify the other arguments that people make, nor does it disprove any that people make against. Also, if that’s true, then how is it that Paul makes the distinction between the two, and so does Leviticus and Deuteronomy. And at the very least, the Bible when and wherever it uses this word, describes the behavior, i.e. ‘man lying with a man’, etc. . So, how can Paul do that without abrogating Scripture, if that is the only instance where homosexuality is described as wrong? Bottom line- it describes a homosexual, vice ridden lifestyle shown best in Genesis 19:5-9:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
So, obviously, it’s a pretty hedonistic lifestyle according to the text, and I see no mention of a temple here. Therefore I say that the argument is a misnomer, lame as it already was.
Myth #5 “All you Christians do is use the Bible to justify your own bigotry and hate!”
Answer- Wrong. All we do is speak the truth from the Scripture. All people that argue this fall into the words of the Apostle when he said, ” For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts.” (II Timothy 4:3). This also goes with Romans 1:21-27:
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Our REAL motivation:
Proverbs 14:34- Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin condemns any people.
Leviticus 5:1- “‘If anyone sins because they do not speak up when they hear a public charge to testify regarding something they have seen or learned about, they will be held responsible.
Therefore, by the mandates of our God, if we fail to speak out about of these things, we are just as guilty as the homofascists. Believers who espouse these things as pure and proper are even more so guilty. Galatians 1:8, Romans 16:17, Jeremiah 23:16, and Psalms 138:2 condemn people such as this absolutely.
What I’m getting at is this (and WAY more to come on the topic): If we as believers are supposed to bow to the god of PC and ‘tolerate’ you, to accept you as people and actually care about people. You should be sensitive to the fact that in our belief in the hereafter it is mandated that we speak out the truth of Scripture. So basically you feel we should go to hell just to make you feel better…? Sorry, not going to happen! I don’t care for my children and wife that much, let alone you! I’d fight to the gates of hell for them (and you), but nothing and no one will stop me from hearing the voice of Jesus saying, “Well done, good and faithful servant!”